motown, james brown, you name it. so much music. of course, hank williams. i parents used to play a lot of hank williams. that is it. >> the same. my upbringing was made into a world -- i am sure roger heard this music, but i was made to sit and listen to sinatra, of duke ellington, and when you heard ella fitzgerald sing, nobody has ever come close to her. in a sense, every young singer of the day has to be compared to her. later artists like aretha franklin, and then when i started to listen to the blues. hallie wolf. roger does a great howling wolf. probably not. now using like a bird. and the guitar player is an extraordinary guitar player. often these guys in the background. i have trained to listen to the background. we share a lot of stuff. i would not call myself a musicologist. i would say i did not have any barriers whatsoever. i listened to everything. on the plane last night i was listening to niketti as i ate my spaghetti. [laughter] >> how did you all meet and decide to form a band? >> i had a band way back. i used to have to make my guitar bec